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June 16, 2009  Producing and exporting oil by Kurdistan Region is a remarkable achievement 

Rudaw 

Professor Ismail Beshkchi is a supporter of the Kurdish cause in Turkey. He has spent more than 17 years in Turkish prison for his positions in support of Kurdish issues. Beshkchi is the honorary member of the Kurdish Academy and the Kurdish Writers' Union.   

Rudaw:  Why in the Turkish, Persian and Arabic communities there are not many supporters of an independent Kurdish state? 

Dr. Beshkchi:  In the non-democratic communities, the view of the state, or if we put it more correctly, the public view, is formed within the formal ideology of the country and (in regard with the Kurdish issues) this ideology is against Kurds. The general directorates, media, academic institutes, judicial establishments and the civil society organizations are all formed within and function under the same ideology.  Generally speaking, an independent intellectual is the one who criticizes this ideology. So in such communities where a formal ideology dictates thought, science, and art, it is difficult for supporters of an independent Kurdistan to emerge.  

Rudaw:  How is the situation of southern Kurdistan in your opinion? 

Dr. Beshkchi:  That area has witnessed significant developments. Producing and exporting oil to the international markets by the administration of Kurdistan Region is a remarkable achievement. Consequently, the region will be connected to the international political and economical system. 

Rudaw : Some Kurdish institutes, for instance, the Kurdish Institute in Istanbul which you are one of its founders, claim that your relations with PKK has deteriorated. What is the reason for this? 

Dr. Beshkchi:  Freedom of criticizing is a very important factor in thinking. Kurds, including PKK, more than any other people need to be criticized. This criticism should become a continual and dynamic process.   

Rudaw:  The Kurdish parties have giving up the slogan of independence. How do you interpret this? 

Dr. Beshkchi:  The Kurdish parties should think about this matter scientifically, politically and diplomatically. The Kurdish nation is 40 million people, divided up and scattered. They are not a small entity. How this can be right? In the world there are states comprised of 10 thousand or 50 thousand people. Why the Kurdish nation does not have even a political component. The name of the nation is only mentioned while addressing terror. 

Rudaw:  It feels like this slogan (Independence for Kurdistan) is generally fading away among Kurds. In your opinion what is the reason for that?  

Dr. Beshkchi:  If one does not ask for something, it won’t be given to him. I think the main reason for this is that a great number of Kurds sell their properties in Kurdistan at even low prices and re-settle in the western areas of (Turkey) area where they buy new prosperities. The notions of ‘we will not separate’ and ‘we are brothers’ are growing in an inappropriate and unhealthy speed.  

Rudaw:  PKK and (the Democratic Society Party) DTP demand autonomy for the Kurds, while the Turkish movement stresses on the need of solving the Kurdish issue. What do you think is going to happen?   

Dr. Beshkchi:  The Turkish state denied the Kurdish nation and the language of this people for a long time. However, as a result of the sacrifices of the PKK this denial will not last. Nevertheless, this time the state is trying to avoid addressing the issue by calling it under a false name. The Kurdish issue can only be solved by logic. What has led to the issue is the denying position of the Turkish state. When the state can give up this position (of denial) the door for solution will open. 

Rudaw:  Turkey demands that first PKK should lay down arms. In your opinion what is the goal behind this? 

Dr. Beshkchi:  When PKK announces ceasefire, the Turkish state must not insist on attacking the party. Yet, after declaring the ceasefire, the Turkish airplanes continue bombing PKK and thus (Turkey) shows that it doesn’t want a solution. In my opinion PKK wants to solve the issue, that is why it announces ceasefires one after another.  

Rudaw:  Do you think that the current President of Turkey, Abdulla Gul, can solve the Kurdish issue?  

Dr. Beshkchi:  While addressing the Kurdish issue, Gul refers to it as ‘the main issue of Turkey’. Judging on his statements and positions, those are good signs.  

Rudaw:  After the meeting between Obama and Ahmad Turk on the one hand, and Ahmad Turk and Abdulla Gul on the other, how do you see the situation of DTP? 

Dr. Beshkchi:  Obama's addressing of the Kurdish issue is a positive development. The meeting of the presidents of the U.S. and Turkey with Ahmad Turk is a step which will strengthen DTP position. 

Rudaw:  You have suffered much for supporting the freedom of Kurdistan. Have you ever regretted your position?  

Dr. Beshkchi:  Someone who has a cause and who can address it through scientific, political and diplomatic means will keep on his positions.  

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